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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 10:30 am Post subject:

Hey Dog's,
I chose to take everyones' advice and am now a proud owner of the Abit KX7-333 and it is a very stable FSB overclocker, espcially because of the 5:2:1 divider. However running 1727MHz, and 1.0GB of OCZ PC3200 Rev.2,(166MHz) I'm only getting 11431 3DMark2001SE score. I'm using Winfast GF4 Ti4400 (Leadtek's double fanned 1 LB chunk of Aluminum wrapped OC'er) Detonator 40.71. Via 4n1 v.4.41 final, and WinXP. I'm cooling the Athlon with the Thermalright SLK800, Vantec Tornado 84CFM 80mm fan, and still can't run 3DMark2001SE past game 3 running at 1787MHz. cranking up the voltage to 1.850V almost seemed to fry the FSB or AGP bus, you could hear a mechanical click, like something reset. Even with the 5:2:1 divider. Anyone own OCZ DDR400 Rev.2? It's run in 2.5 and 2, and timing 1T, 2T, and has only made minor differences? So I just don't see where the bottleneck is, but I have this feeling it's the DDRAM, AGP or PCI buses. I've boosted the voltage, but with OCZ's PC3200 it usualy peforms best with very low voltage increases (from what I've read)? And finally I've ample PSU (Antec 480Watt) Can anyone please help?
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Edited by - Liquid3D on 10/12/2002 11:33:17

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 12:27 pm Post subject:

OCZ ram? Never heared heared of it...

It sound like one of the pci cards cant handle the higher fsb.

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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 2:07 pm Post subject:

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OCZ ram? Never heared heared of it...

Is there anyway to inactivate all the PCI slots prior to benchmarking utilizing the AGP bus only? Or is Removal the only alternative?
You really never heard of OCZ? Their using Winbond 5ns IC's, in the Rev.2 while Corsair uses Winbond 6ns IC's in XMS PC3200?

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Edited by - Liquid3D on 10/05/2002 18:08:51

Edited by - Liquid3D on 10/05/2002 18:12:57

Edited by - Liquid3D on 10/05/2002 18:13:42

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 4:17 pm Post subject:

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OCZ ram? Never heared heared of it...

It sound like one of the pci cards cant handle the higher fsb.
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Newegg sells OCZ now. They are pretty good. They also make good heatsinks (OCZ Dominator, Dominator II).

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 7:06 am Post subject:

OCZ Technology had some problems in the past, when they were accused of not manufacturing their own RAM, and other baseless accusations (of course about 90% of RAM on the planet is sub-contracted out, in fact they are more honest about this than most, because they actually supervise the fabrication, ensuring their standards are met),however; I found an article at Savagezone.net which linked me to an interesting letter posted at OCZ's site. It was written by and notarized, by a co-conspirator involved in stealing intellectual, and physical property from OCZ. Apparently those involved were under the direction of an individual whom wanted to start his own memory company. Here's the link to that Savagezone article (it's entitled "OCZ the Other Side of the Story." 8th article down;http://www.savagezone.net/it makes for some interesting reading.

All I know is I've been using OCZ's DDR400 now for months and it's performed flawlessly! Although I haven't been able to push it to it's rated speed due to my system's bottlenecks, I do know their PC3500 just passed PC1066 in a BlarOC review. I don't know everything, but doesn't that technically make OCZ's DDR433 the fastest RAM available? Here's alink to the review:http://www.blargoc.co.uk/reviews/oczpc3500/page4.shtmlIt brings you right to the place where the reviewer is running the OCZ at 440MHz in 2-6-3-3 timings. Pretty dam impressive. Whatever their past difficulties, look's like OCZ's re-emerging with vengeance!

Anyway I'm awaiting a system change, and I don't think without unlocking my AX1800 AGKGA, that I'll be fully exploiting the RAM's potential. Unless someone has another idea for me? Can anyone recommend a program which would inform me of my PCI/AGP bus speeds, so that I may begin to track down the source of the bottleneck?

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I don't know everything, but doesn't that technically make OCZ's DDR433 the fastest RAM available?

This stuff also looks pretty good - can't recall anyone ever having a problem with Corsair either (sorry I can't say the same about OCZ) - w Very Happy

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Edited by - squito on 10/23/2002 00:44:19

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:01 pm Post subject:

Your Link is broken. I'm starting to get your point. I'm now running an Athlon 2400 XP, and my 3DMark2001SE scores are lower, and my memory benchmarks in SiSoft Sandra are 1900/mbs with OCZ DDR400? It's like all evidence suggests memory?

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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:46 pm Post subject:

If your running a 2400+ WHY THE HELL IS YOUR SCORE 1689mhz??? shouldnt it be 2ghz????

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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:24 pm Post subject:

He hasn't changed his sig yet.

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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:31 pm Post subject:

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He hasn't changed his sig yet.

Life is a like a box of chocolates.....when it's done it's done.

[:I] um...ok.

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Your Link is broken. I'm starting to get your point. I'm now running an Athlon 2400 XP, and my 3DMark2001SE scores are lower, and my memory benchmarks in SiSoft Sandra are 1900/mbs with OCZ DDR400? It's like all evidence suggests memory?

Link is fixed now - sorry 'bout that - w Blush Smile

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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:56 am Post subject:

Thank you. I didn't think I'd have to invest in RAM again, I have 1.5GB's of OCZ DDR400. I'm currently running OCZ DDR400 Rev.2 (CAS 2) in my KX7-333/Athlon XP 2400 (obviosly recently purchsed) I OC'd it to 2190MHz @ 146FSB and then 3DMark2001SE would crash to Windows. Now I can't even surpass 142FSB with stability? Still my 3DMark2001 benchmarks SHOULD have increased with the 660MHz clock speed increase since my Athlon 1800 last week? I've tried increasing DDR Voltage, Vcore, etc. and almost every possible RAM Timing. Even tried different DIMM placements.

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Edited by - Liquid3D on 10/23/2002 11:01:03

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 11:23 am Post subject:

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Thank you. I didn't think I'd have to invest in RAM again, I have 1.5GB's of OCZ DDR400. I'm currently running OCZ DDR400 Rev.2 (CAS 2) in my KX7-333/Athlon XP 2400 (obviosly recently purchsed) I OC'd it to 2190MHz @ 146FSB and then 3DMark2001SE would crash to Windows. Now I can't even surpass 142FSB with stability? Still my 3DMark2001 benchmarks SHOULD have increased with the 660MHz clock speed increase since my Athlon 1800 last week? I've tried increasing DDR Voltage, Vcore, etc. and almost every possible RAM Timing. Even tried different DIMM placements.

Take out all but one stick, see what happens...

IMHO - there's other RAM vendors out there with a better reputation, personally I prefer Corsair, it's spendy, but they work very well. Mushkin and Crucial are also on my short list of RAM vendors. With the controversy around OCZ, I would even consider them, even if it is good product.

Getting off the soapbox, one thing that you should try is to run Memtest30 with your settings as they are. Any errors, roll the timing back a tad. Any errors would indicate a shaky stick of RAM, and I recommend returning those sticks...

http://www.memtest86.com/

I can't say enough about the program. I've had it find bad sticks that other testers have passed (but comp was still unstable). This was one of the reasons why I continue to buy Corsair, as other vendors have shown up with bad RAM. I've never had a problem with Corsair.

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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 8:32 am Post subject:

Thank's Iceman, Ive downloaded MemTest86 v3.0, but haven't tried it yet. Whenever I mention OCZ people either love or hate them. Anyway, I've heard the Athlon 2400's come factory unlocked, but only on KT400 Mobo's? If this is true then perhaps my KT333 KX7-333 with it's new BIOS (accepts <13x multiplier) will be able to access the multiplier settings as well?

I have cleared my CMOS, and afterwards the CPU posted as a Athlon XP1500? Wouldn't this indicate it's reading the 2400 at the lowest multiplier? Of course in the BIOS it reads; >13x so it would have to have a value from which to choose, and that would have to be a preprogrammed value, no?

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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 10:16 am Post subject:

I prefer Crucial. I've always used them and never had a problem, nor have I heard of anyone having a problem, unless of course they did something stupid and created the problem themselves.

If the 2400 is unlocked, it's unlocked on any mobo. It's not going to make a difference what mobo you are using. Do you have the bios set to 133 fsb? That could be why you are posting lower. I have this same mobo. btw.

If your system is unstable, I would venture to say it's the ram. I've seen it time and time again. Only other reason might be heat but if you're using the SLK-800, I doubt very much it's that.

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