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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 3:14 am Post subject:

I recently upgraded my Duron 800 to a nice AthlonXP1800 (1.53GHz) and since then ive had nothing put problems. I'm running Windows XP Pro and i get the good old BSOD everytime i try and do something. It's having errors with the Win32k.sys file which i have no idea what is or does. Any help would be greatly appreciated because i dont want to have to give up my nice new upgrade.

My systems specs if it could help anyone are an A7V133 motherboard with 640mb SD133 ram, a 60GB Seagate HD, Geforce2MX400 32mb Video card and a Sound Blaster Live! Value

Please Help!

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 3:26 am Post subject:

Welcome to the Forums Sir Nemesis it's good to have more Aussies in the Forums

Have you checked you mainboard manufacturer for updated bios and drivers?
When you replaced your Processor did you relpace the Mainboard as well or are you using thre same mainboard?
Is the processor geting ovely hot ie is the Cooling fan seated correctly and a good thermal paste applied. (Heat will cause Bsod's)

More info on your problem please?

Yokel

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 4:35 am Post subject:

The motherboard drivers are the most recent (1008a)and its the same motherboard i was using with the other cpu. It's maximum cpu speed is 1.8GHz so thats not the problem. The cpu is running at a nice 41 degrees C or 105 F so temperature isnt the problem either

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 6:46 am Post subject:

I hate to suggest the obvious, but did you change over the FSB jumper? Durons run at 100 MHz FSB, but the XP requires 133 MHz; most boards have a jumper you can change to control the FSB.

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 3:11 am Post subject:

Yes i changed the FSB. Seeing how the maximum multiplier on the motherboard is 12.5 the only way to reach the desired speed of 1.53GHz was to change the FSB so thats not the problem. I've also tried changing every other peice of hardware in the computer to see if something else is at fault EXCEPT for the motherboard because i don't have an alternative. Everything i changed still has the same fault even after installing Windows 2000 Professional the problem remained. Only when changing the CPU back to my old Duron did the problem stop occuring. So unless i have a setting somewhere wrong i must conclude that the new CPU is faulty.

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Have you tried it with only two memory sticks, or even one ? Your memory configuration may not like running at 133MHz. It's also possible your power supply may not be up to the task?

September 11, 2001

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 3:22 am Post subject:

I've tried 6 different memory chips (including some new ones) one at a time, 2 at a time, 3 at a time. No changes and the power supply is up to the task 450W Dual Fan.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 6:42 am Post subject:

Hmm. I'm afraid this problem is going to end in a fresh install, but I may be wrong. It sounds to me like you're having a conflict of some sorts, either in IRQ or in Windows itself. You may have a bad chip, but those are few and far between. Try disabling onboard sound (if you have it) and going for it again. If that doesn't do it, poke around your BIOS a bit for other possible conflicts; turn off everything in there that you don't use, look at the manual IRQ settings, etc. If that fails, you may simply have to do a fresh install.

Those are no fun Sad Smile

Good luck!

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 6:49 pm Post subject:

hmm........i agree with jonathan on this one.....fresh install of windows sounds like a good thing........i dont think you would have had to if it was a minor processor upgrade......but this was a MAJOR step up from what you had

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...even after installing Windows 2000 Professional the problem remained

I believe SirNemesis has the fresh OS install covered.

May I suggest fiddling with the core voltage? I've seen some XP's that like less voltage - even a 1/4 volt change can sometimes make the difference. And yes, sometimes they want more voltage. I would give it a try?

September 11, 2001

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 9:31 pm Post subject:

So do XP's, Duron's and T-Bird's all run at different voltages?
Family specific? Speed specific? Chip specific?

Just curious. Only had experience with T-Bird's.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 2:36 am Post subject:

The (Palomino) AthlonXPs take one of two different voltages depending on their speed. For example, the 1800+ uses 1.75V. Expect the new (Thoroughbred) AthlonXPs to use less voltage once they appear on the market. My (Spitfire) Duron-750 asks for 1.60V. I've been feeding it 1.82V so that it will run at 933MHz (7x133). That is actually more stable than trying to run it at 1.87V.

I hate to suggest this, but there may be another component in your system (RAM or northbridge) that is not happy at 133MHz FSB. Try running your AthlonXP underclocked on a 100MHz front side bus for a few hours and see if the problems go away.

Edited by - JustAnEngineer on 05/02/2002 06:38:28

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 3:24 am Post subject:

Ive tried everything in the BIOS that i can think of. I've even reset it to default and i tried downloading a new version of the BIOS no help. Core voltages ive covered. 1.6 - 1.9 no difference except it runs alot worse after it goes over 1.85v. Fresh install i have tried a couple of times with the same OS and another one (Win2k Pro, WinXP Pro)

I don't think theres anything left to change except for the CPU. I'm going to take this one back on sunday and get a new one if possible. But if the guy tests it and finds nothing wrong with it i'm really going to be in a bind.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 3:28 am Post subject:

Ohh and by the way. This motherboard doesnt have on-board sound and i tried to underclock the cpu but it wont startup at all if it set at anything other then the actually clock speed it is. So i can't change the FSB. I noticed that it wouldnt let me underclock the CPU when i was using my Duron 800 either. Must be something to do with the motherboard.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 6:04 pm Post subject:

By "underclocking" I meant to run your memory and CPU bus at 100MHz rather than at 133MHz. This will make your AthlonXP 1800+ run at 1150MHz instead of 1533MHz. This is the default behavior of my ASUS A7M266 motherboard if the system fails to boot properly--it goes back to safer settings.

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