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Stray Dog Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Location: wv

I've got a wierd problem that i've never seen before. A site i go to play cards at is not accessible since last thursday. I can see any other website but this 1. Talkin to friends in IM the site is up, but i can't get to it. Keep gettin the "page cannot be diplayed". check other puters in the house, all the same. Walk next door (same cable isp..adelphia.net) same thing. Check isp website and do the online help. Go thru the same stuff i did before, clean, reboot, check this and that tellin me that the site must be down. Ask them if they can get to it, they say no, must be down,(sigh how may times i gotta tell em its workin) I can get on the site at work (diff isp) but cant play because of being at work. I tell them that the site is up, in contact with ppl playin there. Ask tier 2 tech if he can get there, he ses no site must be down, tell him no it's up. Now at tier 3 do the tracert thing and they say it's droped out of thier network....nothing they can do. Last ip on tracert is 17 79 ms 85 ms 98 ms tge4-1.fr1.lax.llnw.net [69.28.171.77] after a little searchin find limelight network. Contact them and after a few e-mails back n forth, they tell me its not them, to contact valve corparation, whom i cant seem to find as a internet company. so now i'm stuck. If any of you could help thank you

me adlephia.net
lookin for www.hoylegames.sierra.com 63.215.73.41

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject:

Some whole regions are not accessible to other whole ISPs.

(and, if you win too much, they may lock you out)

You could try a web-based proxy.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject:

I am assuming by playing cards you are talking about playing poker.

The US gov't with the aide of the US and American Indian lobby created a law that prevents US citizens from playing poker and other gambling games at off shore sites. And to assist this they had the sites blocked from the US as well as making it a federal offense to deposit money on an offshore gambling site using a credit card. GL there are ways around the rules. Paypal and other noncredit card middlemen are already there to assist in your gambling needs

Guide Dog Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 8419 Location: MN

TOMaxwell wrote:
Some whole regions are not accessible to other whole ISPs.

(and, if you win too much, they may lock you out)

You could try a web-based proxy.

Or my personal favorite when I was doing tech support, verizon users on one subnet can't access an FTP server on a different subnet, but me on a different ISP can access both via ftp, and can equally be accessed by both... (spent a while on the phone with verizon trying to get them to believe that was happening.)

Stray Dog Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Location: wv

It's a game site, not real money. They have board games too. Just never seen this before. Was playin last wed night, thursday nuttin, and cant get on from a next door( same isp) nor could the techs from the isp. but can from work (diff isp) and friends from the site not reporting any problems.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject:

Same thing happened to me. Page can not load.

You know what's funny though? The URL you posted: www.hoylegames.sierra.com

Doesn't really work. Take OFF the www. part so the real URL is:

http://hoylegames.sierra.com

I'm looking at the site right now. Maybe you try that Laughing

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject:

Lycander wrote:
Same thing happened to me. Page can not load.

You know what's funny though? The URL you posted: www.hoylegames.sierra.com

Doesn't really work. Take OFF the www. part so the real URL is:

http://hoylegames.sierra.com

I'm looking at the site right now. Maybe you try that

Yep. Worked for me Very Happy

Stray Dog Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Location: wv

doesnt for me nor does using the sites ip 63.215.73.41

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:53 am Post subject:

can you try a traceroute (in windows it's tracert) from your house to the hoyle site. You appear to be on Adelphia and routed through Frederick, Maryland. It's possible something at Adelphia isn't right. At least it wouldn't surprise me.

[edit]

ok I did some more picking around. It looks like Adelphia, not surprisingly, heads off to Time-Warner cable's NOC in DC, and thence to New York, at least as I trace you. Time-Warner hooks up with Level3 in New York, which by my routing takes me to Hoyle in Los Angeles.

I'd be interested to see if you make it out of Time-Warner land.

[/edit]

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:59 am Post subject:

I've had a couple of the vids linked here I can't get to
and the second options posted play fine

my friend can't see the 2nd links at all
but the origs work fine
weird being on diff networks

my guess would be delayed updates of the dns table in the various links of the dns chains (thingys) (( ya know ))

Stray Dog Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Location: wv

did that adelphia ses the packets drop after they hand em off
the company where they do drop limelightnetwork.net ses its not them iether

C:\Documents and Settings\tech>tracert 63.215.73.41
Tracing route to 63.215.73.41 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 22 ms * * 10.180.64.1
2 43 ms 32 ms 12 ms 67.20.47.173
3 11 ms 32 ms 14 ms 68.66.31.158
4 12 ms 10 ms 11 ms 69-161-20-77.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.161.20.77]
5 36 ms 12 ms 12 ms a2-00-00-00.a0.dca91.adelphiacom.net [66.109.15.
169]
6 20 ms 23 ms 12 ms ae-0-0.c1.dca91.twc-core.net [66.109.1.137]
7 10 ms 36 ms 25 ms ae-1-0.p1.dca91.twc-core.net [66.109.1.190]
8 16 ms 30 ms 10 ms unk-426d0dc2.adelphiacom.net [66.109.13.194]
9 20 ms 12 ms 28 ms tge1-16-1.ar1.iad.llnw.net [69.28.156.177]
10 30 ms 70 ms 28 ms 69.28.171.182
11 57 ms 51 ms 49 ms so1-6-2.ar1.dal.llnw.net [69.28.171.165]
12 50 ms 52 ms 78 ms tge1-4.fr3.dal.llnw.net [69.28.171.134]
13 78 ms 81 ms 79 ms tge1-2.fr3.phx2.llnw.net [69.28.171.129]
14 87 ms 82 ms 77 ms tge2-3.fr3.phx2.llnw.net [69.28.171.149]
15 89 ms 99 ms 90 ms tge2-1.fr3.phx1.llnw.net [69.28.171.89]
16 91 ms 117 ms 91 ms tge1-2.fr3.lax.llnw.net [69.28.171.82]
17 79 ms 85 ms 98 ms tge4-1.fr1.lax.llnw.net [69.28.171.77]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.
Trace complete.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:13 am Post subject:

Sierra's website is hosted in Intermix Media's ipblock. Intermix is part of Fox, I dunno if that matters.

can you get to http://www.intermix.com/intermix_about.cfm ?

Stray Dog Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Location: wv

nope cant ping it iether 63.215.75.108

Stray Dog Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Location: wv

It seems Hoyle has blocked all or most adelphia cable subscribers from thier site. Why....who knows. They aint sayin. Thanks for all the sugestions tho.