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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:10 am Post subject:

Dave Rave wrote:
Dave Rave wrote:
run
HDD Health
on the drives with them NOT on the promise or adaptec
look at the SMART stats and see if the drives are ok

uhm ..... hint

In my defense... erm... eh... Oh crap. I'm an idiot! Smile

The only other drive was just dandy. There! Better?

/Akely

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:18 am Post subject:

take the ide drive cables off the promise
plug them into your motherboard
boot
look at HDD Health

as long as it's not some proprietary raid setup ... the drives "can" be seen as plain drives and go back to raid mode once they're on the Promise again.
not for sure, but possibly.
my sata drives on this dual xeon can do this ....

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject:

Dave Rave wrote:
take the ide drive cables off the promise
plug them into your motherboard
boot
look at HDD Health

as long as it's not some proprietary raid setup ... the drives "can" be seen as plain drives and go back to raid mode once they're on the Promise again.
not for sure, but possibly.
my sata drives on this dual xeon can do this ....

Hm... good idea. I'tl require some tinkering since the OS is on the RAID. Perhaps do a ghost over to a USB mem stick? Gotta think about this. Fun!

/Akely

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:18 am Post subject:

IMnsHO ...what idiot builds an OS on a raid drive

A. you can't build the OS without the raid drivers
2. if the raid dies the WHOLE computer is bust
and ... and ... oooooohhhh!!!!!

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:30 am Post subject:

Dave Rave wrote:
IMnsHO ...what idiot builds an OS on a raid drive

A. you can't build the OS without the raid drivers
2. if the raid dies the WHOLE computer is bust
and ... and ... oooooohhhh!!!!!

Fuck you. And your mother. This idiot built it. Cool

/Akely

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:35 am Post subject:

you don't own an Easter Bunny suit I hope......

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject:

Quote:
A. you can't build the OS without the raid drivers
2. if the raid dies the WHOLE computer is bust
and ... and ... oooooohhhh!!!!!

Whats wrong with putting the OS on an array? Maybe not a simple stripe set, but a mirror works just fine. Needs a driver? Doesn't every drive controller need a driver (yup)...

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:15 am Post subject:

Finally tracked this down. Have not had much tyme working on it betwwen Kitten preperations, getting banged up, banging Flea and other stuff.

It was the IDE cable that was faulty.

As soon as I exchanged it for another it worked. Strangely the original one was the IDE133 cable that came with the ASUS motherboard. The new one is a no-name (round) IDE133 one.

Ah well...

/Akely

Guide Dog Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 8419 Location: MN

Dave Rave wrote:
IMnsHO ...what idiot builds an OS on a raid drive

A. you can't build the OS without the raid drivers
2. if the raid dies the WHOLE computer is bust
and ... and ... oooooohhhh!!!!!

maybe some one should get an OS with the drivers built into the kernel.

and as for the raid dieing, it is 0+1, your more likely to have a single disk drive die then to loose that whole array.

Butt Sniffer Joined: 09 Nov 2000 Posts: 1883

Dave Rave wrote:
IMnsHO ...what idiot builds an OS on a raid drive

A. you can't build the OS without the raid drivers
2. if the raid dies the WHOLE computer is bust
and ... and ... oooooohhhh!!!!!

The most common RAID levels.

Level 0: Striped Disk Array without Fault Tolerance: Provides data striping (spreading out blocks of each file across multiple disk drives) but no redundancy. This improves performance but does not deliver fault tolerance. If one drive fails then all data in the array is lost.

Level 1: Mirroring and Duplexing: Provides disk mirroring. Level 1 provides twice the read transaction rate of single disks and the same write transaction rate as single disks.

Level 5: Block Interleaved Distributed Parity: Provides data striping at the byte level and also stripe error correction information. This results in excellent performance and good fault tolerance. Level 5 is one of the most popular implementations of RAID.

Level 0+1: A Mirror of Stripes: Two RAID 0 stripes are created, and a RAID 1 mirror is created over them. Used for both replicating and sharing data among disks.

Level 0 is the only one that results in data loss if you lose a disk. As far as having to load drivers for the RAID Array? On M$ products it is as simple as hitting F6 and inserting the disk during set-up.

Looking at the benefits of RAID and since most new motherboards have RAID controllers built-in I think the real question is who doesn't use RAID?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:09 am Post subject:

I'd raid a data disk
but the OS .....
I like to format and re-install if I get stuck.
no need for drivers until after the OS is finished.
then I poke the Device Manager until it plays my way.
if the OS is on a raid partition, you need to find a floppy drive (a what?) and get the drivers somewhere you can find them .... etc ....

bah humbug .....
IDE cables. I knew that was the problem (not)
but I'll take the credit for it.