LITTLEBLACKDOG.COM

EEps

Rut roh... Sad Smile

Guess there really won't be any OS9 emulation anymore... Sad Smile

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:16 pm Post subject:

Not too much left in an Apple computer that make it an Apple computer anymore.

EEps · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject:

There's always that neat sticker... Wink Smile

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject:

Intel is taking over the world. Just kidding. It helped all my Intel stock, since the rumors came out about this deal stock has been going up. I think it will be interesting when they start coming out. Supposedly they will be using an emulator to get the mac software to work.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject:

Well this will be interesting........I attended a Apple workshop a year or so ago with one of the Apple engeneers that designed OS X he let it slip it was first designed on the intel chip then ported to the power pc..........tyme for a reverse port?

Guide Dog Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 8419 Location: MN

MAc is never going to let mac OS X off the mac hardware... If intel is making chips for them now, Intel will have to make them some nice mac chips.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:20 am Post subject:

What none of the articles I have read so far explain is what exactly Intel will be providing. I am suspecting that it's not Pentiums. A Mac's BIOS and general hardware architecture is somewhat different than your basic Wintel machine.

Smells like brinkmanship to me. IBM's chip business is 3% of their revenues, and Apple's piece of that business as a customer is something like 8% of their chip business. IBM wouldn't give SteveJ any concessions on profit margin. And nobody's managed to build a G5 that doesn't radiate more heat than an Athlon. My G5 tower's inside is mostly blowers.

I think this story has yet to actually work itself out. Don't touch that dial, kids.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:27 am Post subject:

This really burns me up. So many n00bs go around saying Macs would be so much cheaper if Apple ports it to x86.

1) I highly doubt the CPU alone made such a wide price margin between a Dell PC and a PowerMac. Factor in the fancy chasis and the Apple tax why duncha?

2) Even if they did use x86 chips that doesn't mean you can install OSX on a DIY PC. Pehaps if some hackers really persisted, and that's acceptable to rogue Windows users you live above the law. But the "Joe user" still has to pay the Apple tax.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:44 am Post subject:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/06/06/liveupdate/index.php

Quote:
As the Intel logo lowered on the stage screen, Jobs said, "We are going to make the transition from PowerPC to Intel processors, and we are going to do it for you now, and for our customers next year. Why? Because we want to be making the best computer for our customers looking forward."

"I stood up here two years ago and promised you 3.0 GHz. I think a lot of you would like a G5 in your PowerBook, and we haven't been able to deliver that to you," said Jobs. "But as we look ahead, and though we've got great products now, and great PowerPC products still to come, we can envision great products we want to build, and we can't envision how to build them with the current PowerPC roadmap," said Jobs.

Intel processors provide more performance per watt than PowerPC processors do, said Jobs. "When we look at future roadmaps, mid-2006 and beyond, we see PoweRPC gives us 15 units of perfomance per watt, but Intel's roadmap gives us 70. And so this tells us what we have to do," he explained.

Well I'll be damned... honestly I wasn't expecting this. And even know he's talking to us like little children. "15 units of performance per watt..." what the heck is he talking about?

Leg Humper Joined: 16 Jan 2002 Posts: 5483

how about this!!:

Quote:

Mac OS X has been "leading a secret double life" for the past five years, said Jobs. "So today for the first time, I can confirm the rumors that every release of Mac OS X has been compiled for PowerPC and Intel. This has been going on for the last five years."

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:20 am Post subject:

So are software developers going to have to recompile their apps for the X86 platform? What about those with old macs? Are there going to be 2 versions of each application?

Didn't Apple just go through all of this when they released OSX?

Leg Humper Joined: 16 Jan 2002 Posts: 5483

I can't say for certain, but he mentioned universal binaries that work for both PPC Macs and Intel Macs (recompile woudl be neccesarry) and also a program that will run PPC compiled MAC apps on their Intel coutner-part.

Leg Humper Joined: 16 Jan 2002 Posts: 5483

I'm also under the impression that you will still have to purchase an "Intel Mac" to run OSX. What I mean is, there will be a difference between an Intel Mac and an Intel PC.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:27 am Post subject:

quijbe wrote:
I can't say for certain, but he mentioned universal binaries that work for both PPC Macs and Intel Macs (recompile woudl be neccesarry) and also a program that will run PPC compiled MAC apps on their Intel coutner-part.

That sucks for me. I create cross-platform CD-ROMs and I already have to worry about OSX vs. OS 9 apps. Now I have to throw OSX86 into the mix, which will mean that each of my CDs will have 4 different executables on them (around 60 megs each), thus filling up 1/3 of the CD with applications and leaving little room for multimedia content. It's rediculous because they have less than 2% of the market, and yet they will take up the majority of our development.

Steve Jobs is a putz.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:31 am Post subject:

Crap. I tried to register osx86.com and it was taken two days ago...oh well...