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quijbe
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if the prices will still be exorbant?
It will be more difficult for them to justify the prcietag of a $2000 MAC using the same or similiar hardware as a $400 PC. |
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Lycander
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Joined: 24 May 2002 Age: 25 Posts: 12198
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: |
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You have 60 meg executables? Wow.
The universal binaries takes care of that for ya. 1 app bundel contains both the PPC and Intel images.
What I'm more concerned about is endianess. For porting software from x86 to PPC, now we don't have to worry about endianess. But I worry for the PPC developers who've had their minds wrapped around big endian for the last what? 20 years give or take?
quijbe wrote:I wonder if the prices will still be exorbant?
It will be more difficult for them to justify the prcietag of a $2000 MAC using the same or similiar hardware as a $400 PC.
Not really. Mac users were brainwashed to believe the components put in a Mac are somehow blessed and are of high quality than the ones in PCs. In reality, the CPU alone won't make that much of a difference in the overall computer's cost.
More practically, I think the Intel Macs will be priced reasonably compared to existing Mac systems so not to show favortism or draw up some imaginary superiority lines between PPC and x86. |
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gregw
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Lycander wrote:You have 60 meg executables? Wow.
The universal binaries takes care of that for ya. 1 app bundel contains both the PPC and Intel images. Yeah, those are the smaller ones. I've had them get up to a couple hundred meg before, but these are fully interactive presentations with all data bundled into the exe. They have to be completely self contained with no installers or anything. Basically you pop the disc in and it starts playing (with the exception of OSX since Jobs in his great wisdom disabled autorun in OSX) |
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Lycander
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Do you really mean compiled resources, or just files inserted into the app bundle? If the latter, you're in luck. Only the binary image have to be doubled. |
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gregw
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Lycander wrote:Do you really mean compiled resources, or just files inserted into the app bundle? If the latter, you're in luck. Only the binary image have to be doubled. compiled resources. |
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Lycander
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Mebbe you can put those resources in a dylib and weak link it in the other binaries. |
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gregw
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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It's a function of the authoring program: Macromedia Director |
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Lycander
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Wait for Macromedia to patch it |
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gregw
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I know they will make it work with the new OS, I will still need to support all of the old OSes at the same time on the same disc. |
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Lycander
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:51 am Post subject: |
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That's what I'm saying, hopefully a new Director format will make the final output compatible across various "Mac" machines. |
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EdisonRex
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Joined: 06 May 2002 Posts: 10148
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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and time to get on the XCode bandwagon. I need to seriously look at that disk I have of it. |
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Lycander
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Don't you have a G5 PowerMac EdisonRex? The installers should already be on your HD somewhere. |
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EdisonRex
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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no I didn't exercise the option for Tiger to update Xcode. I will this weekend or something. Time to get looking though. |
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gregw
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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EdisonRex wrote:no I didn't exercise the option for Tiger to update Xcode. I will this weekend or something. Time to get looking though. You can alway download the latest version here:http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/index.html |
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squashman
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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So does this mean that we would be able to Dual Boot Windows and OS X?
Why didn't Apple do something Bold and do the announcement with AMD! IBM had a hand in AMD's latest chips and has similarities with the PowerChip. Kind of a slap in the face for AMD. |
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