LITTLEBLACKDOG.COM Forum Index LITTLEBLACKDOG.COM

 
LWD LWD   FAQ FAQ   Memberlist Memberlist   Usergroups Usergroups   Active Topics Active Topics   Register Register  
  Profile Profile   Log in to check your private messages Log in to check your private messages   Log in Log in  
  Who is Online Who is Online   Image Gallery Image Gallery   Chat Chat   Search Search  
  LWDGear       LBDGear  

View next topic
View previous topic
Post new topic     Reply to topic   LITTLEBLACKDOG.COM Forum Index -> Computer Hardware » CPU
Author Message
squito
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 05 Dec 2000
Posts: 5941
Location: USA

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 9:56 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

I'm worried this 300W Sparkle won't provide enough juice for an Athlon (a new PS ain't in the budget) ... what are you all using Question Question Question

Signature down for repairs ... Tongue Smile

_________________
Answers for Atheists and Agnostics
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
hummer010
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 02 Nov 2000
Age: 32
Posts: 4636
Location: Right here!

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 10:16 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

I have a 300W, but I have a friend that is running a T-Bird 650@800 with a 250W with no problems. It really depends on the rest of the stuff your planning on running. If you have six hard drives, 3 CD-ROMS and 12 fans, I would recommend you upgrade. If you are a little more normal, you will be fine. I have 3x20GB 7200RPM hard drives, 8X DVD-ROM, 4x4x24 CD-RW, 92mm fan, 80mm fan, Delta Black Label 60mm fan all on my Powerman 300W psu, and I have never had a problem.


_________________
---------------------------
Where are you?



...remember second place is really only first loser!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
squito
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 05 Dec 2000
Posts: 5941
Location: USA

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 10:25 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Quote:
I have a 300W, but I have a friend that is running a T-Bird 650@800 with a 250W with no problems. It really depends on the rest of the stuff your planning on running. If you have six hard drives, 3 CD-ROMS and 12 fans, I would recommend you upgrade. If you are a little more normal, you will be fine. I have 3x20GB 7200RPM hard drives, 8X DVD-ROM, 4x4x24 CD-RW, 92mm fan, 80mm fan, Delta Black Label 60mm fan all on my Powerman 300W psu, and I have never had a problem.

Cool ... all I have is a couple of hard drives and a CDROM ... below normal here ... Very Happy

Signature down for repairs ... Tongue Smile

_________________
Answers for Atheists and Agnostics
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
The Satan Of SETI
Butt Sniffer
Butt Sniffer


Joined: 31 Mar 2001
Posts: 1938
Location: Nimbus

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 12:03 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Don't try feeding a TEC from that PSU or you will run into serious trouble.

- The Satan Of Seti
_________________________
I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me.

_________________
Hey kid, who you lookin' at?
Why you standin' all up in my face like that?
You ain't never seen a baseball bat?
A maniac knockin' on your baseball cap
You better step about ten paces back
Or you'll be layin' where your shoe laces at
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
hummer010
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 02 Nov 2000
Age: 32
Posts: 4636
Location: Right here!

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 12:10 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Been there, done that, wasn't too pretty.


_________________
---------------------------
Where are you?



...remember second place is really only first loser!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
The Satan Of SETI
Butt Sniffer
Butt Sniffer


Joined: 31 Mar 2001
Posts: 1938
Location: Nimbus

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 12:29 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Evaporation?

- The Satan Of Seti
_________________________
I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me.

_________________
Hey kid, who you lookin' at?
Why you standin' all up in my face like that?
You ain't never seen a baseball bat?
A maniac knockin' on your baseball cap
You better step about ten paces back
Or you'll be layin' where your shoe laces at
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
hummer010
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 02 Nov 2000
Age: 32
Posts: 4636
Location: Right here!

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 12:59 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Nope. I was running a 250W psu on a celeron 566@1020 with a watercooled peltier. I smoked the psu in a big way. It was a pretty cosly f**k up. There were actually flames coming out of the psu, luckily I was there when it happened. Anyways, fried the psu, melted the side panels of my el-cheapo case, and melted the plastic case of my abit slotket that I was using, which fried the slotket. It was a bad day indeed.


_________________
---------------------------
Where are you?



...remember second place is really only first loser!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Guy
Cat Chaser
Cat Chaser


Joined: 15 Jan 2001
Posts: 774
Location: San Antonio, TX

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 1:39 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Quote:

Don't try feeding a TEC from that PSU or you will run into serious trouble.

- The Satan Of Seti
_________________________
I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me.


translation for lower beings?

-g



"I'm not the one with the answers, just the one with the questions"

_________________
----------
"The handwriting on the wall may be a forgery." -Ralph Hodgson
----------
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
hummer010
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 02 Nov 2000
Age: 32
Posts: 4636
Location: Right here!

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 1:56 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Quote:
translation for lower beings?


Don't run a peltier as well as the rest of your system off of that power supply.


_________________
---------------------------
Where are you?



...remember second place is really only first loser!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Artstar
Butt Sniffer
Butt Sniffer


Joined: 24 Oct 2000
Posts: 1545
Location: USA

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 5:58 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

TEC= Thermal Electric Cooler.
Freezes on one side and will fry an egg on the other.
Awesome for cooling a CPU. I had one running with a self made water block to cool the hot side of the TEC and was running it on it's own 250W PSU.
They consume a LOT of juice that why the need their own Power supply.
Thats what it is Guy

.......*****.......
I ran out of ideas.

_________________
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
The Satan Of SETI
Butt Sniffer
Butt Sniffer


Joined: 31 Mar 2001
Posts: 1938
Location: Nimbus

Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 10:09 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Best way to do it is get yourself a special TEC power supply like the SEC-1223 from Overclockers Hideout. Produces 23amps@13.8V.
Your TEC (peltier) will love that much!

- The Satan Of Seti
_________________________
I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me.

_________________
Hey kid, who you lookin' at?
Why you standin' all up in my face like that?
You ain't never seen a baseball bat?
A maniac knockin' on your baseball cap
You better step about ten paces back
Or you'll be layin' where your shoe laces at
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Guy
Cat Chaser
Cat Chaser


Joined: 15 Jan 2001
Posts: 774
Location: San Antonio, TX

Post Posted: Wed May 30, 2001 8:54 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Quote:

TEC= Thermal Electric Cooler.
Freezes on one side and will fry an egg on the other.
Awesome for cooling a CPU. I had one running with a self made water block to cool the hot side of the TEC and was running it on it's own 250W PSU.
They consume a LOT of juice that why the need their own Power supply.
Thats what it is Guy

.......*****.......
I ran out of ideas.


sounds Cool Smile

-g



"I'm not the one with the answers, just the one with the questions"

_________________
----------
"The handwriting on the wall may be a forgery." -Ralph Hodgson
----------
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
The Satan Of SETI
Butt Sniffer
Butt Sniffer


Joined: 31 Mar 2001
Posts: 1938
Location: Nimbus

Post Posted: Wed May 30, 2001 9:36 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Quote:
sounds Cool Smile


But will fry your beloved CPU in the wink of an eye if your heat dissipation unit (most common seen with a peltier is water cooling) fails. Heat on the hot side is not dissipated - hot side gets hotter, the effect is turned over... and [size=32]BOOM![/size] add +60°C to your overclocked heat monster.... Welcome to BBQ!

Friend of mine was gone for the weekend - he came back late sunday evening and his box was toast. The TEC had generated enough heat to melt his socket, fry his motherboard and took the RAM with it (the last one seemed to have died by a short generated when the motherboard went dead). He couldn't even tear the TEC and the CPU apart as it had baken together.

He was lucky that his appartment didn't caught fire.

Cause: The waterpump decided to quit service.

----

OTOH you will have to avoid evaporation on any electric parts otherwise.... [size=32]bzzzzzzzt![/size]

- The Satan Of Seti
_________________________
I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me.

_________________
Hey kid, who you lookin' at?
Why you standin' all up in my face like that?
You ain't never seen a baseball bat?
A maniac knockin' on your baseball cap
You better step about ten paces back
Or you'll be layin' where your shoe laces at
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Guy
Cat Chaser
Cat Chaser


Joined: 15 Jan 2001
Posts: 774
Location: San Antonio, TX

Post Posted: Wed May 30, 2001 1:55 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

I trying to get this straight so bear a moment

when your trying do this super cooling you could use water cooling, with a waterblock or on top of that you can put a peltier in between and get better cooling..what i just said is right, wrong??

-g



"I'm not the one with the answers, just the one with the questions"

_________________
----------
"The handwriting on the wall may be a forgery." -Ralph Hodgson
----------
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic     Reply to topic

View next topic
View previous topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
phpBB SEO
All times are GMT - 8 Hours

Help us keep advertisements off this site. Donate today!