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Posted: Mon May 28, 2001 10:17 am Post subject:

Only when mixed with a little Oxygen...hehehe and we have plenty of that floating around don't we?

Rover
- I don't have a god complex...I just like people to think I do!

Posted: Mon May 28, 2001 11:23 am Post subject:

Hydrogen is highly flammable, it is also the perfect green fuel. When hydrogen and oxygen are burned, the only product is water. In the early nineties Mazda was working on a hydrogen powered car that would have had better power and more range than the electric cars, and have no emissions except for water. Unfortunately there was a little explosion during a test, and three of the four engineers working on the project were killed. I think there are still a few companies looking at developing this technology still. There are two problems as I see it: One, the explosive nature of hydrogen makes it difficult to store and use in cars, and two, the hydrogen is difficult/costly to get.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2001 4:34 pm Post subject:

don't forget CO2 as a byproduct of the combustion process. Also I had seen a show a long time ago on a substance that kind of looked like fool's gold that when under very mild pressure would absorb hydrogen gas, making for a very stable transport medium but I think it added too much weight to the car since you needed a shit load to hold enough fuel for any sort of feasability.

Rover
- I don't have a god complex...I just like people to think I do!

Posted: Mon May 28, 2001 6:12 pm Post subject:

I have seen a couple fuel cell powered cars at an automotive company i deal with.

the fuel cells use hydrogen to produce electrical power to run dc motors. They don't burn the hydrogen they separate the electrons some how and water is left as the only emmissions.

you get to see alot of wierd cars around here as the big three auto makers are based here in detroit.

Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 8:28 am Post subject:

I guess the automaker could easily make cars that get 100+ miles on just basic fuel. I was talking to mi dad and he told mi of this little story where a bud he knew from high school had changed his cadilac enging to the point where he could get 100+ miles to the gallon easily. He mentiond that this was like back in the mid 70, when cars didn't get good milage anyway, he said that he sold his design to GM for some big $$, well later mi dad was a manger at a GM department and ask one of his friend bout the thing, this friend works over in the big thinktank area. the guy from their said that they get tons of thoes designs a year but all they do is sit on them. I guess if they were REALLY FORCED TO they could built these supermilage cars with easily but they don't.

-g

"I'm not the one with the answers, just the one with the questions"

Posted: Wed May 30, 2001 1:46 pm Post subject:

Honda has a hybrid vehichle (half battery and half combustion (sp?) engine). it gets 80 miles to the gallon and costs 20,000 after the government buyer insentive stuff. If there were no incentives the vehichle would cost double that.
It has a manual transmission and is very small, kinda like the old CRX but with fender skirts on the rear wheel wells.
The engine stops running when the vehicle comes to a stop (that will freek you out let me tell ya.)

VW has a hybrid version of the beetle available 75 miles to the gallon

Toyota has one out but i am not sure of the name.

Ford is going to release a hybrid Focus next year.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2001 1:59 pm Post subject:

but the point that i was trying to make is that it doesn't need to be hybrid to be a better milage car, it just needs to be more fule iffencient with the way they design the parts

-g

"I'm not the one with the answers, just the one with the questions"

Posted: Wed May 30, 2001 2:52 pm Post subject:

I know what you mean, Guy. I've been hearing stories like that for years and years. Like this guy that invented a carburator that could get 100 mpg on a '57 Chevy but after he showed it to one of the major auto manufacturers he died in a freak accident, his house, garage and lab burned down, no records or prototypes were found and his idea died with him. The auto-X-Files? Makes ya wonder sometimes. Big industry and big oil sleep together and nothing is going to stop them from milking the cow dry and by then they will own any new cows. pain

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Oh... I just remembered another story and it can be validated and didn't happen very long ago. It was in the newspapers and on TV. During one of our "energy crisises" invented to raise the price of fuel, this farmer, inspired not only by the government's plea to develope and use alternate energy, but also to survive and feed his family, He started turning his low-market value corn into alcohol and modified his farm equipment to run on it. The FBI arrested him for bootlegging, running a still, and I forget what else. Needless to say he lost the farm. [B)]

- Ed.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2001 5:32 pm Post subject:

this little thing reminds mi of a bumber sticker i saw the other day:

-Don't Steal
The Goverment HATES compitition-

Now we all know who runs the company

-g

"I'm not the one with the answers, just the one with the questions"

Mutt Joined: 29 Apr 2001 Posts: 108 Location: USA

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I've got a Tbird 1.2 that I had OC'd, but backed down to 1.2- with SETI crunching It's running at 49-51 degrees C. Ouch, that's hot!
It has a Thermaltake Volcano II with stock fan. I removed the thermal tape and am using some no name brand silicone.
I have Antec case which is at 30 dgrees C - one fan in, one fan out.
Any suggestions to bring the temp down? I am looking at a Swifttech MC462-A or should I try a Delta fan on the Volcano?

Thanks- Scrap Iron

I would get some more air flow into the case, either get higher cfm fans or larger fans. With the larger fans you can get the same cfm at quieter noise levels as the smaller fans of the same cfm, but will require some case modding.
As far as HSF, I would think about getting something different. I myself am using an Alpha PAL6035 with a Delta Black Label fan(38cfm) on an OC'ed T-Bird(850@1200) and while running SETI and doing this my temp is only 38°C. The Alpha PEP66 is also very good, but it's a side mount fan, make sure you have room for it, or you can modify it so the fan is on top.

Stray Dog Joined: 31 Dec 2000 Posts: 60 Location: Portugal

Thanks. I think that's one of my problems (air flow in the case). I am going to switch to some Panaflos, but I'm unsure if I can handle the noise of the hi-flo's.

In the [H] forum, some people have said that you should use the extra washers for the Swiftech 462 to get it to seat better. I'm going to try that this weekend. I just don't want to take out my motherboard!

Those are two good HSF, but I just dropped soem $ on this baby, so I'm going to stay with it for a while. Thanks.

Abit KT7A, Swiftech MC-462A rev1, Sanyo Denki 80mm, T-bird 1.2, 384meg PC-133 CAS2, VisionTek GF2 Ultra, SB Live! Value, (2) Maxtor ATA100 7200 RPM 20GB HDD, Netgear 10/100, 12x10x32 Iomega CDRW, Sony FD Trinitron 19, Boston Acoutics BA-635, Antec SX830

Mutt Joined: 29 Apr 2001 Posts: 108 Location: USA

Just a side note. I noticed you have an Iomega 12x10x32 CD-RW. It's very possible it me be a rebadged Plextor!
Check out this site.
http://www.roundsparrow.com/comp/iomega1/
Here's a little snippet:

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Many consider the Plextor 12x recorders with BURN-proof to be the best drive on the market, so getting it from bargain seller Iomega combines good value with great technology. The Iomega drives have sold for as low as $100 after rebate! With firmware updates (Plextor version 1.07), they can do 32x Digital Audio Extraction (DAE) - they also work with almost any CD-R / CD-RW media!

Stray Dog Joined: 31 Dec 2000 Posts: 60 Location: Portugal

Yes- I downloaded the update from another site, but haven't applied it yet. I got my for US$99 after rebate! Woo-Hooo!

Abit KT7A, Swiftech MC-462A rev1, Sanyo Denki 80mm, T-bird 1.2, 384meg PC-133 CAS2, VisionTek GF2 Ultra, SB Live! Value, (2) Maxtor ATA100 7200 RPM 20GB HDD, Netgear 10/100, 12x10x32 Iomega CDRW, Sony FD Trinitron 19, Boston Acoutics BA-635, Antec SX830

Stray Dog Joined: 28 May 2001 Posts: 21 Location: USA

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Hydrogen is highly flammable, it is also the perfect green fuel. When hydrogen and oxygen are burned, the only product is water. In the early nineties Mazda was working on a hydrogen powered car that would have had better power and more range than the electric cars, and have no emissions except for water. Unfortunately there was a little explosion during a test, and three of the four engineers working on the project were killed. I think there are still a few companies looking at developing this technology still. There are two problems as I see it: One, the explosive nature of hydrogen makes it difficult to store and use in cars, and two, the hydrogen is difficult/costly to get.

H2 makes sense when gas /oil/ etc are totally impractical- someplace remote, AND WATER IS SCARCE [ or worth more than, say, gold !] Tthe water produced can be super-pure as long as the H2 and O2 were,and the storage conditons are right. The H2 used would have to be cryogenic [ very cold liquid ].. Outer space works here; earth-- not readily...
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you can implicate the gov't on a lot of stuff.. but energy is too big.. and the conspiracy is backwards:

the gov't conspires to keep energy prices artificially LOW [ voters will go for cheap fuel and power], to keep the economics of alternatives unrealistic WHICH THEY ALL ARE..including corn-to alcohol-> fuel: both economically and energetically inefficient !!
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BTW- you can brew practically unlimited quantities of beer for 'personal consumption', but brewing 95.5 ethanol WILL get you arrested; no 'conspiracy' about it... your farmer buddies need to produce non-drinkable/ nonethanol alcoholic fuels [ altho that may be tricky, legally and from a liability standpoint]
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email me for serious discussion about energy, policies, discussion boards, etc.

Being ignorant might be no one's fault. Staying ignorant is.
RagingSteveK
http://members.iglou.com/sjkavcak/

Stray Dog Joined: 28 May 2001 Posts: 21 Location: USA

I said: "BTW- you can brew practically unlimited quantities of beer for 'personal consumption', but brewing 95.5 ethanol WILL get you arrested; no 'conspiracy' about it... your farmer buddies need to produce non-drinkable/ nonethanol alcoholic fuels [ altho that may be tricky, legally and from a liability standpoint]
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email me for serious discussion about energy, policies, discussion boards, etc."
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make that 'distilling', rather than 'brewing' 95.5 ethanol.
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Being ignorant might be no one's fault. Staying ignorant is.
RagingSteveK
http://members.iglou.com/sjkavcak/

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