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Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 11:33 pm Post subject:

allright heres the deal....im building a new comp with an xp 2000+......and i want to know what heatsink to use, i want one with thumbclips, noise is not an issue (after all it will cover up my parents bitching at me for spending to much time on the computer)...so heres what i need from you guys....to tell me the best thumbclip heatsink available (remember noise is not an issue)

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 12:07 am Post subject:

Thermalright AX-7 w/Delta 80mm is supposed to be a winner, as is the HS Squito's been pimping on the front page for a while now (though that's a 60mm HS unless I'm mistaken). At any rate, couple either of those with a quality fan and some Arctic Silver 3 and you have a winner.

For comparison, I run a 1900+ in a Lian Li PC-USB60 case using an AX-7 and Sunon medium-flow fan (about 38CFM, somewhere around 30 dba; very tolerable) with the front fans turned to the lowest setting. At 25C ambient my case is around 35C (thanks to the new OCed GF4) and my CPU hovers around 50 under full load.

Good luck!

[edit]You might want to reconsider the noise issue; I can 100% guarantee that it will grate on your nerves in the long run.[/edit]

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Edited by - Jonathan on 05/26/2002 04:08:22

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 5:08 pm Post subject:

jonathan......i appreciate the effort you gave into this....but i REQUIRE A MODEL THAT ATTACHES TO THE MOTHERBOARD WITH THUMBCLIPS

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...to tell me the best thumbclip heatsink available (remember noise is not an issue)

You don't need a screwdriver to mount the SLK-600 - having a clip that uses all 3 lugs means you have something big enough to get your paws on (surprising how easy it was to do it this way) - w Big Smile

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 5:14 pm Post subject:

so your saying its damn near impossible to crush the core with the slk-600????

(heh....i thought the slk-600 was a mercedes.....)

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 5:14 pm Post subject:

I thought you were referring to a clipped HS as opposed to one that you have to mount using a screwdriver and screws; no need to yell. Just remember that this is going to seriously limit your options.

If noise is truly not an issue, I would look at an OCZ Goliath. It's all-copper with thumbclips and takes a 60mm fan.

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 7:09 pm Post subject:

Avoid 60mm heatsinks if you want to overclock or if noise matters to you at all.

The new huge 70mm and 80mm sinks can cool better with less noise than a 60mm unit or can provide unmatched air cooling when equipped with a screaming high speed 80x38mm fan.

Jonathan's suggestion of the Thermalright AX-7 is reasonable. I have an Alpha PAL-8045 on my main system. The PAL-8045 mounts through the motherboard, and then you've got to put the fan and fan guard on top, so installation is tedious. Take a look at Alpha's motherboard compatibility table before you buy this huge heatsink. You should consider the ThermalTake Volcano7+ for $49, including fan and 3-speed control. This heatsink uses a 70mm fan, so you may have some difficulty finding different fans to try on it (although it might be fun to try this tip-magnetic-drive fan), but the large chunk of copper with many thin skived fins should provide excellent performance. I have the cheaper Volcano7 in my second system. It has fewer thicker aluminum fins than the Volcano7+, but it uses an 80mm fan, so it is easy to find different ones to try. I'm using the original thermally-controlled variable speed fan. This combination doesn't cool as well as the Alpha with a middle-of-the-road fan, but it is just as quiet. I have a new variable-speed (3300rpm max) 80mm fan with a rheostat knob, but I have not yet installed it in either system.

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P.S.: Dan has the cooler review that ate Sheboygan:
http://www.dansdata.com/coolercomp.htm

P.P.S: Let's add the OCZ Goliath SE to the list of high-performance heatsinks with 80mm fans.

P.P.P.S.: I left out the Swiftech MCX-462 on purpose, because it is so gosh-darned expensive.

Edited by - JustAnEngineer on 05/27/2002 01:10:48

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Avoid 60mm heatsinks if you want to overclock at all.

The SLK-600 is one of the top 3 performers on this chart - very close to those 80mm units - w Question

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 8:51 pm Post subject:

The Thermalright SLK-600 is one of the best-performing heatsinks using a 60mm fan, but how outrageous a fan are you using? A larger fan can move the same volume of air while spinning at a slower speed. High-speed fans are annoyingly noisy.

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 11:07 pm Post subject:

ok....i think i found the heatsink i want.....not only does it meet all of my requirements.....but it performs extrememly well

and i have chosen..............THE COOLERMASTER HHC-001 (step on down to claim your prize of being the official heatsink of smokinAMD's smokin new box)

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ok....i think i found the heatsink i want.....not only does it meet all of my requirements.....but it performs extrememly well

and i have chosen..............THE COOLERMASTER HHC-001 (step on down to claim your prize of being the official heatsink of smokinAMD's smokin new box)

That looks like a good choice, but beware of dust bunnies (another reason we went with you know what) - w Big Smile

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The Thermalright SLK-600 is one of the best-performing heatsinks using a 60mm fan, but how outrageous a fan are you using? A larger fan can move the same volume of air while spinning at a slower speed. High-speed fans are annoyingly noisy.

It's the same Delta 38 (or clone) that was on our old HSF- nowhere near as annoying on the SLK-600 - maybe it's the flow-thu design Confused

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Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 6:14 pm Post subject:

When I built two PCs about sixteen months ago, I got a 750MHz T-Bird and a 750MHz Duron with the intention of running them at 133MHz front side bus on the first ASUS A7M266 motherboards available. I read lots of poorly-written heatsink reviews on the overclockers' websites before I ordered some exotic heatsinks and fans based on those reviews (including a useless modified Super-Orb). This was before Dan published his well-written mega-review.

Armed with this expensive pile of overclocking gear, I achieved the best cooling with screaming 38cfm 6800rpm or 7000rpm Delta black-label 60mm fans on an Alpha PAL-6035. Even a $5 CoolerMaster aluminum heatsink performed pretty well with a Delta 7krpm banshee strapped on top. However, I could not live or sleep in the same house with one or two of the Delta 7krpm fans running. Since I wanted to keep these PCs crunching work units 24/7, the Deltas had to go. I ordered another box of fans, including a nice 4800rpm Sanyo-Denki unit that I ended up using on both CPUs. The Deltas are still in the big bag of surplus fans in my parts closet.

The T-Bird never would run at 1GHz, becoming unstable above 950, while the Duron would only run at 1GHz with the insanely-loud Delta and a big voltage bump (1.87V). I gave up 30 or 40MHz by replacing the Deltas with the quieter Sanyo-Denki fans. I eventually cut and pencil-tricked the L5 bridges on both processors to knock the multiplier from 7½ to 7. The Duron ran at 933 without a hitch, while the T-Bird was more stable at 902. However, the steady march of technology rendered that overclocking achievement pretty useless. I've given away both of those CPUs and replaced them with $100 AthlonXPs (1700+ and 1800+) that I have not bothered to overclock. With so much performance available for so little money, it hasn't seemed worth the effort.

I have decided that the good point of buying a well-designed heatsink is to be able to get decent cooling while using a very quiet low-rpm fan.

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I have decided that the good point of buying a well-designed heatsink is to be able to get decent cooling while using a very quiet low-rpm fan.

Quiet is good - no bout adoubt it - w Big Smile

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