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LadyEleni
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2000 10:37 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

I still use a 100mb zip drive and some discs to back up stuff... what I am wondering is, is there some other program that makes it easy to remember to do this now and then? I have tried some backup programs but no matter how I set them up, it seems that it doesnt go smooothly. Creates 2 of everything even tho I have overwrite checked.. or backs up EVERYthing instead of just my documents and databases...etc...
Ya think its just me?
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2000 8:21 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

It hard to say if it's you are the software without knowing which software you were using! Besides a 100MB Zip disk is a little small for backing up stuff. Not to mention it is just an overgrow floppy and therefore may have questionable life expectency!

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2000 8:58 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

If you have some money to spare. Dump the ZIP drive and just buy a CD Burner. Then put yourself on a regular schedule to perform the backups. Most CD's have a life expectance much greater than any TAPE or DISKETTE.



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Post Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2000 12:03 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

if you get a cd-rw you can erase the cd, and then do a new backup and viola ! no duplicates

I would recommend using 2 cd-rw's and alternating them between backups. that way in a worst case scenario ( if you had a system failure DURING backup ) you would atleast still have the "other" copy and you could minimize data loss.

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Post Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2000 12:20 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

There are many CD-RWs out there to choose from and I've had personal experience with HP, Sony, and Plextor. And I must say, Plextor's latest offering with its burn-proof technology is by far the best out! I've deliberately tried to make a burn fail and short of turning the power off I couldn't with the Plextor 10/12/32 model! Others have also tried and couldn't make the drive fail and therefore it has been adopted as our Corporate standard. I work for a Fortune500 company so that's no small potatoes!

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2000 9:39 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Don't floppies only reliably store data for like a year or so? I don't know if it's a year or not, but I know it's certainly not forever. Anyone know about c.d.'s?

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2000 11:49 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

It depends on the usage of the CD in question but I've seen studies that suggest a good quality CD-R burned once and put away can hold data for longer than we can to think about, something like 10,000 years!

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2000 2:36 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Wow. I wasn't expecting THAT long. 10 years would be plenty. By then, c.d.'s will probaly be extinct anyway. Wink Smile

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2000 1:22 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

the shelf life for cd-r's is supposed to be 3-5 years. If you buy high quality ones you can get that up to 10 years. If you want to pay around $10 a pop, you can get medical grade cd's which are quaranteed for 25 years

that said, if you burn one, put a label on it, and DO NOT write on it with a marker,then put it back in a hard case with nothing else inside that could cause the laquer to degrade, it can last a really long time.

due to manufacturing specs, if you buy decent cd-rw's you can expect to get 1.5-2x the life out of one if you only write to it a few times. Unfortunately you would have to keep it stored in the dark to prevent data corruption ( the disk integrity will remain fine, but the die will gradually fade when stored in a lighted/heated environment)

Plextor makes very good drives, so do Yamaha, Ricoh, and HP
If I needed to replace mine right now (I don't) it'd either be the SCSI Yamaha with 8 meg of cache, or an IDE plextor ( like the one Rover is talking about )

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