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anglachel
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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[img]http://video.dot.state.mn.us/video/image?id=628[/img]
web cam from the downtown side of the bridge. |
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fear_nothing
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: |
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I can TOP your holy crap. My brother takes that bridge everyday. He called me right after this story broke in the news. He had just crossed that bridge & it collapsed five minutes later  Needless to say he was pretty worked up.
Please say a prayer for those who didn't make it.... 20 missing so far.
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anglachel
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Toxin wrote:I seem to recall, through the weekend's alcoholic haze, that we were discussing construction/engineering mishaps, one example being where the plans were flawed but the construction crews followed them precisely.
Could this be something like that?
I believe When I was making that drunken conversation I was reffering to another one of our bridges, Wakota Bridge
which isn't done yet, and is already crumbling...  |
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BamZipPow
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the gusset plates were too weak fer the load that the bridge was holding. Photos show it buckling...4 years earlier in 2003.   |
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CMTG
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:51 am Post subject: |
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The originally posted article says:
The 40-year-old bridge was rated as "structurally deficient" two years ago and possibly in need of replacement, Minneapolis' Star Tribune reported. The newspaper said that rating was contained in the U.S. Department of Transportation's National Bridge Inventory database.
And then someone says, "I've heard it's not terrorism." Oh gee, ya think? |
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: |
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CMTG wrote:The originally posted article says:
The 40-year-old bridge was rated as "structurally deficient" two years ago and possibly in need of replacement, Minneapolis' Star Tribune reported. The newspaper said that rating was contained in the U.S. Department of Transportation's National Bridge Inventory database.
And then someone says, "I've heard it's not terrorism." Oh gee, ya think?
My, how quickly we've been conditioned to think that any damage to infrastructure must be due to terror (as opposed to terra), so that anything which occurs which isn't due to terrorism is seen as odd.
A more cynical person than I might wonder about the motives of those in power... |
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ThunderDawg
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: |
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T wrote:A more cynical person than I might wonder about the motives of those in power...
Who is this hypothetical person of which you speak?
Does that person work for the Media? |
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anglachel
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Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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13 and a half months later, here we are, and the new bridge will be open some time this week, they will be annoucning the exact date tommorow.
http://projects.dot.state.mn.us/35wbridge/
I was just cycling up there earlier today, and it looks pretty much done other then taking down some cones, and painting some lines on the road... |
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CMTG
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Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Quote:"This bridge has been built to the highest possible safety standards and is coming in ahead of schedule and on budget."
As opposed to all other bridges where they just said "fuck it" to safety standards...  |
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Slymer
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Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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CMTG wrote:Quote:"This bridge has been built to the highest possible safety standards and is coming in ahead of schedule and on budget."
As opposed to all other bridges where they just said "fuck it" to safety standards...
and schedules and budgets... |
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anglachel
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Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Slymer wrote:CMTG wrote:Quote:"This bridge has been built to the highest possible safety standards and is coming in ahead of schedule and on budget."
As opposed to all other bridges where they just said "fuck it" to safety standards...
and schedules and budgets...
well you do have to wonder about a bridge that was built in ~10 months (because they weren't allowed to start building until all the wreckage (still splayed out on the coast of the mississippi just out side of downtown) was removed...
but it looked like they built the hole thing with premade concrete forms (concrete cured in a controlled enviroment probably did some sort of wacky cable stressing things) then trucked the parts in and just put them togather on the location. might even be from a company that sells bridges from kits like this all the time for all I know...
I won't be driving over it for a few weeks at least... but I bet traffic in the cities is going to decline dramatically once this is up (and traffic on 35w just south of the city where there is another major construction project under way is going to go up substantially.) |
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Slymer
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Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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ah yes... traffic... I'm so glad I don't have to drive any highways to work... just about 5.3 miles of main roads. (pretty much only main roads around here anyhow) |
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JustAnEngineer
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_us/bridge_collapse_7 |
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BamZipPow
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: |
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I wonder how much that new bridge costs compared to a normal bridge...especially with all those sensors... |
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