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Guide Dog Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 8160 Location: MN

Mit wrote:
creed wrote:
iceman wrote:
Mit wrote:
pitty most microsoft software isn't designed to work with em yet.

Linux however

Actually, WinXP and WinServer2k3 should work just fine... as long as the license level is appropriate.

But with AMD and Intel going more for parallel cores, MS is going to have to re-eval their licensing structure.

iceman

or they could be asshats and watch UNIX take more market share

they're gonna have to re-think it - and fast

I can see they'll try and charge more for a 'decent' pc sooner tho

suffice to say, i won't be giving them any more cash. I'll just use Linux wherever I can

an interesting thought... however if your going to get your "decent" box, then you'll be needing to be installing wine inorder to play games on them boxes.... and that would just be a straight out mess... though I think we are probably headed that way...

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject:

williamv wrote:
From what I hear from our MS rep they have already thought this through and will be licensing per socket rather than per core.

Indeed. But the only real software this will affect are database servers (Orcale for instance) and in the 3D rendering field, render engines such as Mental Ray. The 2 mentioned companies however, prolly don't give a hoot what MS thinks.

Even if MS has that mentality with their products, right now you can't just buy Windows XP off the shelf and have it *recognize* more than 2 cores. Hyper Threading is a different story.

Licensing aside, XP Pro just won't handle 4 cores. The server editions perhaps can, but regardless of MS' stance on per socket licensing, those Windows Server editions are still more expensive but necessary to utilize all 4 cores.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject:

Lycander wrote:
williamv wrote:
From what I hear from our MS rep they have already thought this through and will be licensing per socket rather than per core.

Indeed. But the only real software this will affect are database servers (Orcale for instance) and in the 3D rendering field, render engines such as Mental Ray. The 2 mentioned companies however, prolly don't give a hoot what MS thinks.

Even if MS has that mentality with their products, right now you can't just buy Windows XP off the shelf and have it *recognize* more than 2 cores. Hyper Threading is a different story.

Licensing aside, XP Pro just won't handle 4 cores. The server editions perhaps can, but regardless of MS' stance on per socket licensing, those Windows Server editions are still more expensive but necessary to utilize all 4 cores.

I'm going to *hope* that MS has dealt with this issue in Vista (ie. allow it to run on two CPU's but multiple cores per CPU). I'm not going to hold my breath though. Vista has been in development since dual-cores were just an idea so ....

Guide Dog Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 8160 Location: MN

hummer010 wrote:
Lycander wrote:
williamv wrote:
From what I hear from our MS rep they have already thought this through and will be licensing per socket rather than per core.

Indeed. But the only real software this will affect are database servers (Orcale for instance) and in the 3D rendering field, render engines such as Mental Ray. The 2 mentioned companies however, prolly don't give a hoot what MS thinks.

Even if MS has that mentality with their products, right now you can't just buy Windows XP off the shelf and have it *recognize* more than 2 cores. Hyper Threading is a different story.

Licensing aside, XP Pro just won't handle 4 cores. The server editions perhaps can, but regardless of MS' stance on per socket licensing, those Windows Server editions are still more expensive but necessary to utilize all 4 cores.

I'm going to *hope* that MS has dealt with this issue in Vista (ie. allow it to run on two CPU's but multiple cores per CPU). I'm not going to hold my breath though. Vista has been in development since dual-cores were just an idea so ....

and I'm going to keep hopeing vista cures cancer as was originally promised with longhorn before they scrapped that for something they could actually produce in time to release it with in the next 100 years.

Leg Humper Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 4702 Location: Utah

80 cores... Shocked

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:24 am Post subject:

Mmmmm pin compatible with the new Mac Pro's

8 Cores in a Mac.... mmmmmm.

Stray Dog Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 43 Location: Texas

farmboy wrote:
Mmmmm pin compatible with the new Mac Pro's

8 Cores in a Mac.... mmmmmm.

Anand already did that one! Laughing

For those of us without Mac Pros... http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2848 Smile

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:26 am Post subject:

Doomhammer wrote:
80 cores...

How long does it take to crunch a WU, though?

Stray Dog Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 7

I have also heard how true or not I do not know but...That MS is going to be doing the liscensing for a certain ammount of mobo's per liscense.
But I do not know how true that is because you could use it on multiple computers. But that sucks for people like me that change there mobo's like shirts. Like I said though that is what I heard so i do not know how true or not if I hear anything more I will post up.
Anthony Grippo