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kazicarnes
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Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 1158
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Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Haven't really had a chance to test it out, but you could coat all of the lines in foam... ? |
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TheGodAnubis
Tail-Wagger


Joined: 10 Aug 2001 Age: 27 Posts: 2141
Location: Texas... the rest of the world is imaginary.
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Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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kazicarnes wrote:Haven't really had a chance to test it out, but you could coat all of the lines in foam... ?
thats one idea, but you still have the issue of the heat pipe on the proc, might be hard to insulate it well enough to prevent condensation at that point... however, you might be able to seal the case air-tight and add large amounts of silicate gel drying agent inside... |
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kazicarnes
Butt Sniffer


Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 1158
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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TheGodAnubis wrote:kazicarnes wrote:Haven't really had a chance to test it out, but you could coat all of the lines in foam... ?
thats one idea, but you still have the issue of the heat pipe on the proc, might be hard to insulate it well enough to prevent condensation at that point... however, you might be able to seal the case air-tight and add large amounts of silicate gel drying agent inside...
To heck with the challenge of creating the cooling system and preventing condensation! I don't even want to THINK about the time involved in making just any case air tight... what with all the four gabillion holes they put in them! |
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Dypheron
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Joined: 27 Nov 2003 Posts: 2231
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Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:31 am Post subject: |
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try not to overthink it. Look at it from the standpoint of using a peltier: lots of thermal compound on the socket, foam in the little space in the middle and around the socket. That will solve the condensation problem there. Foam around the coolant hoses, and around the waterblock. Solves the condensation problem elsewhere. That silica gel idea is a good though though, I suppose I could make a small container and stick it somewhere inside the case. |
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The Satan Of SETI
Butt Sniffer


Joined: 31 Mar 2001 Posts: 1938
Location: Nimbus
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Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:11 am Post subject: |
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What about this article on overclockers.com about fridge cooling? |
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Dypheron
LWD Staff


Joined: 27 Nov 2003 Posts: 2231
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Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:59 am Post subject: |
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hadn't seen that one yet. Interesting. |
_________________ foxinhand once said, Will the little ones be diaperons?
DSTG_II wrote:Someone need to follow you and film you. I'd buy the DVD collection.
What can't be solved with the proper amount of RDX?
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allen schultz
Stray Dog
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 2
Location: Aurora, Colorado USA
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: Refrigerated CPU Cooling |
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How about using the Peltier cooling/heating element out of a solid state refrigerator? No liquids. The cold side of the junction would be placed against the CPU. Note that the Peltier junction is not 100% efficient so you will actually be dissipating more heat inside the case, but the CPU itself would be cooler. Perhaps the heatsink on the junction could be enlarged. Reversing the current flow through the Peltier reverses the devices function, so hooking it up wrong will heat the CPU and cool the interior of the case. I guess that would OK for you underclockers out there! |
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Lurch
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 285
Location: Bothell, WA
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Doomhammer
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Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 4702
Location: Utah
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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How about operating it in a vacuum? Without any air, there would be no moisture (except what the fridge and components produced).
And someone mentioned that you'd have to have the fridge on before the computer was on -- what if you installed fans in it so it would be air cooled until the interior of the fride reached N degrees celsius |
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allen schultz
Stray Dog
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 2
Location: Aurora, Colorado USA
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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As I continued to explore this website I found that the use of Peltier junctions has been thoroughly examined. I don't push my PC's to the limit, even with large CAD drawings so overclocking is not something I've ever needed to explore. |
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Dypheron
LWD Staff


Joined: 27 Nov 2003 Posts: 2231
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Doom, Allen, you both have good ideas.
The issue with the fridge being turned on before the PC has already been thought of, and is in fact not as bad of an issue as you would think. It would still act like a normal water cooled setup until the fridge cooled down. Granted that heat would build up inside eventually.
I tend to stray away from peltiers, too much of a pain in the ass. |
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DSTG_II wrote:Someone need to follow you and film you. I'd buy the DVD collection.
What can't be solved with the proper amount of RDX?
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spelltrap
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Joined: 18 Aug 2002 Age: 23 Posts: 4770
Location: Limbo
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I notice that no one's mentioned the extra electrical costs of doing this.
And assuming that we're ignoring electrical costs, why not just leave the fridge on all of the time and use it as...I dunno...a fridge? |
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Dypheron
LWD Staff


Joined: 27 Nov 2003 Posts: 2231
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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spelltrap wrote:I notice that no one's mentioned the extra electrical costs of doing this.
And assuming that we're ignoring electrical costs, why not just leave the fridge on all of the time and use it as...I dunno...a fridge?
I notice that you commented on something like that way back when I started the thread.
I also notice that the only people who would actually make the damn thing would be those that needed extreme cooling and wanted something besides a commercially availiable cooler. |
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DSTG_II wrote:Someone need to follow you and film you. I'd buy the DVD collection.
What can't be solved with the proper amount of RDX?
[21:17] *** Rah has changed the topic on channel #lwd to [1:16pm]«+Dypheron» if someone wants to search my teabag, they damn well better give me a happy ending
Wake me up when things are normal around here again.
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spelltrap
Leg Humper


Joined: 18 Aug 2002 Age: 23 Posts: 4770
Location: Limbo
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Dypheron wrote:spelltrap wrote:I notice that no one's mentioned the extra electrical costs of doing this.
And assuming that we're ignoring electrical costs, why not just leave the fridge on all of the time and use it as...I dunno...a fridge?
I notice that you commented on something like that way back when I started the thread.
Well I'll be damned, I did. Been so long that I completely forgot about it. |
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Mopar
Stray Dog

Joined: 19 Jun 2004 Posts: 8
Location: Maine, USA
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think some of you actually understand why anti-freeze is used in cars.
It is used because it takes a lot of energy (by this I mean, water takes longer
to heat and cool which my science teacher in highschool called thermal conductivity). Anti-freeze (alcohol) is used for 2 reason's, the first is because it changes temperature easily (quickly) and helps the water cool faster and to a lower temperature, and second it doesn't freeze until about 117 degrees below zero. You cannot run a vehicle with just anti-freeze because it heats up so quickly that it will boil before it gets back into the radiator to cool. |
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