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Gateway's 700GR will be using the Intel inspired BTX format... Big Smile

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject:

hmmm looks promising.... not about to jump into it anytime soon though. Thanks for the heads up.

EEps · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:59 pm Post subject:

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject:

So that picture was that big for what reason?
Doesn't look much different than any other computer out there.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:50 am Post subject:

But it's Gateway...meaning it's utter shit.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:

Morgan_Lander wrote:
But it's Gateway...meaning it's utter shit.

Wrong part of the cow, utters give milk. Smile

Sorry, I know, I'm tired and goofy this morning.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:16 am Post subject:

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But it's Gateway...meaning it's utter shit.

Damn when's the last time you posted thar' stranger?

EEps · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:30 am Post subject:

BTX tech info...

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What is BTX technology?

Balanced Technology Extended (BTX) is a new interface standard that was developed as a follow-up to the ATX form factor specification. Since its introduction in 1995, ATX has been the industry standard in chassis design. However, ATX can't adequately cool newer high-end components without creating a noise issue. BTX was developed to resolve this problem—creating a scalable form factor that cost-effectively integrates acoustic performance, power dissipation, structural integrity and motherboard design. These advancements support the demands of higher-performance systems.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:20 am Post subject:

BTX exists only to deal with the insane amount of heat generated by the Intel Pentium4 "Prescott" processor. Buy a better processor instead of Prescott, and you won't need BTX.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject:

Sorry, but BTX is as useless as AT. Just another stupid unesecary form change. Don't get me wrong, I always disliked AT and welcomed the ATX change, but BTX? Not needed. Add a damn fan.

Besides you don't need BTX for a Prescott, they are stopping at 3.8Ghz anyways, they are history. I doubt they started a whole new form factor just because of heat. It is just another stupid proprietary money making agenda that I will not support for as long as possible. I even boycott Sony because of that reason.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject:

I had some fucking twit tell me that BTX was the future. Where? I know it's not going to happen overnight, but people really don't seem to be jumping onboard. Y'know, sometimes when I shop, I don't want your goddamn opinion. Giving me yours insults my intellect.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject:

Morgan_Lander wrote:
I had some fucking twit tell me that BTX was the future. Where? I know it's not going to happen overnight, but people really don't seem to be jumping onboard. Y'know, sometimes when I shop, I don't want your goddamn opinion. Giving me yours insults my intellect.

???

Who is that directed at?

*slides over a cold one*

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:23 am Post subject:

Some guy at one computer shop around here who didn't have tact. I'd hit him, but, trying to justify it to the cops would be on the difficult side. The BTX standard will probably be used some, but I don't think the DIY'ers market will cater to BTX unless there is a demand.

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:48 am Post subject:

Intel's BTX specification defines exactly where the processor and the memory DIMM slots are to be placed. They are far apart. Because the Pentium4 must go through the northbridge to talk to memory, this works for Intel.

Athlon64 has the memory controller built into the processor. The DIMMs therefore need to be relatively close to the CPU to minimize trace length and circuit board complexity. The BTX design makes this impossible.

Anyone building a computer for 3D gaming should be buying an Athlon64 processor (since Athlon64 significantly outpeforms Pentium4 in 3D gaming). Therefore, the DIY market is likely to strongly resist BTX.

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:53 am Post subject:

Also, I likely don't see the Prescott ever going to BTX by mainstream board manufactures. Dual core and low power processors are on the horizion for Intel, these will likely see BTX. The transition will be slow and irratating if it's anything like AT to ATX. Computer OEM's loosley picked up the standard first, then aftermarket.

The processor, memory and other component placement standards for different form factors are more of a guideline than anything else. If you look at different boards now, you will see components are not in the exact same spot, especially memory. Mobo OEM's are not well known for following standards.