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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 3:46 am Post subject:

The subject says it all!!

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 5:16 am Post subject:

I think we all know the answer to this one. Quake 3 might be brighter/prettier, but Unreal Tournament is by far the better game. Epic Games didn't have the barefaced cheek to release an incomplete game and then charge people for the "add-on".

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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 5:59 am Post subject:

Neither.

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Big Dog Joined: 20 Oct 2000 Posts: 3689 Location: USA

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I think we all know the answer to this one. Quake 3 might be brighter/prettier, but Unreal Tournament is by far the better game. Epic Games didn't have the barefaced cheek to release an incomplete game and then charge people for the "add-on".

I couldn't have said it better !

the only thing I would have added is that Epic also didn't try to make money off of the stuff created by the mod community, and even released quite a few mods of their own for free.

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Butt Sniffer Joined: 24 Oct 2000 Posts: 1545 Location: USA

I have played a lot more UT than Q3... Does that say my vote????

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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:37 pm Post subject:

Ut is a great game due to the minds behind the creation of the awesome levels. Q3A gameplay is not good...yet the engine is 10x better than lame unreal engine. If Unreal Tournament came out in quake3 engine...then it be awesome!

Cat Chaser Joined: 24 Oct 2000 Posts: 951 Location: USA

what do you mean the Q3A gameplay is no good? Back you statement up.

I donno, i think UT is just a little to slow to my liking. And its my oppinion that this argument will never be won by either side.

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2001 8:26 am Post subject:

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Ut is a great game due to the minds behind the creation of the awesome levels. Q3A gameplay is not good...yet the engine is 10x better than lame unreal engine. If Unreal Tournament came out in quake3 engine...then it be awesome!

Just me...PsyEd

I don't know enough about game engines to make a comparison. What makes the Quake 3 engine better than the Unreal engine?

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Demon
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Cat Chaser Joined: 24 Oct 2000 Posts: 951 Location: USA

well, the Q3 engine is much much newer (T&L support). In my oppinion the lighting effects and textures look better albiet at the sacrifice of performance. the quake engine handles mists, fogs and particles better then the unreal engine. Read: smokes and fogs look better.

Unreal on the other hand, has a software renderer. QUake 3 does not. I'm just not a big fan of the way the unreal engine looks. Itsjust not a realistic in my oppinion.

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2001 12:56 pm Post subject:

Well Unreal engine is very unstable in over clocked computers. Any VB script kiddie with a little imagination can write a aimbot for it. Dr Sin's CS is just plain crap...it makes gameplay even worse. The netcode sucks...so dialup players are worse off. If you want to get in this game then just master the Shock Rifle, it beats any gun.

Q3A looks 10x better. But gameplay is not good due to bad level design & same ol guns. The BFG SUCKS in a BF way! Their true curve or whatever they call still doesn't work. There are some levels you can use this error to rail people down & own'em Very Happy

Cat Chaser Joined: 24 Oct 2000 Posts: 951 Location: USA

I donno if the q3 levels are bad. I mean, what makes them so bad? i don't see much difference between the 2 games. I mean, facing worlds in unreal is one of the most predictable maps there is. Its what, 2 towers that face each other? Where do you think the sniper is gonna be. Suprise suprise.

Q3 on the other hand is a game of action. Always moving around. Always jumping to avoid getting hit. I suspect all the people out there complaining about Q3 suck at it. Its to fast for their pea brains to process. so, instead of honing their skills, they go and bitch the game out. boo hoo on them. grow some nads and call me later.

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2001 2:47 pm Post subject:

Don't get me wrong; I've played Quake 3 and enjoyed it. I just feel that UT is the more complete game. It feels like much more effort went into it and, judging by some comments 'leaked' from id Software, that's precisely what happened.

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Any VB script kiddie with a little imagination can write a aimbot for it. [...] Their true curve or whatever they call still doesn't work.

'Scuse my ignorance, but what's an aimbot? Is it a cheating aid? And what's the 'true curve'? I don't pay attention to the development of these games, so the terms are unfamiliar.

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Cat Chaser Joined: 24 Oct 2000 Posts: 951 Location: USA

aimbots help you aim. If i'm not mistaken they automaticaly aim to the nearest enemy to the crosshair.

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2001 6:34 pm Post subject:

Starsky in some levels...the rail comes through a wall...surprise it is.

The best levels ever made was CTF Facing Worlds(Original) CTF Lava Giant & CTF Dreary.

Aimbots...err with this one...get a sniper rifle...just move around & click click click to get some headshots...I left Ut for good in mid 2000. Now I only play Cs.

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2001 1:18 pm Post subject:

My vote goes to Q3 - 100%. I like UT, the graphics are good, but the weapons in Q3 arte WAYYY batter IMO. I hate the rocket launcher in UT, and the big Freaking gun (whatever the hell it's called) is useless for all practical purposes.

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