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Post Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 11:27 pm   Post subject: Making a 386 into a Linux Firewall Reply with quote Back to top  

Well now that I am back with the folks I got to look at my very first pc. Made me feel like virgin again.. er Confused

Anyway, I want to make this into a linux firewall box but I have a few issues I need to solve first.

1. I only have ISA slots. I have enough for two; one going to the router one to the cable modem (I think thats how it goes). So do they make ISA Networking cards still? IF they do; and they are only 10 base (I know 10 base's are out there) will it affect my internal networks speed? I feel dumb asking this question as my gut instinct tells me if I still go through my lynxsys router it won't affect my internal network's speed and that teh firewall just blocks stuff from the outside or anything planted on the inside from going out without consent.

2. Where can I find a guide on how to setup my 386 for this? I am so green with Linux I am camoflauged! I love the idea behind it but I lack the technical finesse with software to truly master it - as well I am really impatient and my second box usually gets wiped and loaded with WinSomething KazAa/Edonkey box. I know there is a floppy version of Linux for 386's - which with their instructions I am sure I can install, once that is done I need to figure out how to set it up for a firewall. All things new to me.

I got half the supplies to do it, and honestly I do not trust any software firewall anymore and I just want to do this right.

Besides, I want to brush up on some pc networking stuff so when I go to the fire department next year to apply I can add in "Got a network specialist? I can handle your networks too!" Razz

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Post Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 12:28 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Did someone say MONEY? Big Smile

I guess yer looking fer something like this fer $3 or this fer $2? Big Smile

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Post Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 12:34 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Of course...if you really want to go cheap fer $0.45 each... Smile Shocked

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Post Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 5:28 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Check out ipcop Neff. Easy peasy stuff.
Or you could look into the BSD's but then you got a little learning curve.
I got an old isa card if you want it. Pay shipping and its yours.
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Post Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 4:02 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

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Check out ipcop Neff. Easy peasy stuff.
Definitly check out IPCOP. You'll have a firewall up 5 minutes after you burn the CD. Very good software.

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Post Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 11:39 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Hrm, will that load up my 386? I have a CD-Rom on it, but it was one of the first ones ever made - like x2 sony I think.

I did order two lan cards, thanks Bam!

I will look at that program more closly.

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Post Posted: Sun May 11, 2003 12:21 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Neff wrote:
I did order two lan cards, thanks Bam!


Did someone call? Big Smile

Hope it all works out fer yah. Which one did you get? Big Smile

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Post Posted: Sun May 11, 2003 12:38 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Neff wrote:
Hrm, will that load up my 386? I have a CD-Rom on it, but it was one of the first ones ever made - like x2 sony I think.

I did order two lan cards, thanks Bam!

I will look at that program more closly.


If it does not work: check out FreeSCO. It runs from a floppy. Yes. One. Floppy.

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Post Posted: Sun May 11, 2003 8:59 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Neff wrote:
Hrm, will that load up my 386?

IPCop's hardware compatibility list: http://www.ipcop.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/IPCop/IPCopHCLv01

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Post Posted: Sun May 11, 2003 10:12 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Well the situation just got hairy....


Something I remembered as I booted this thing up, and popped the cd in.

First, it has to load the drivers for the CDrom, it doesn't see them otherwise (we are talking 1992 PC BIOS here). So I went to make the floppy (I printed the instructions at work). Then I realized something that always stuck me before - I have 3 drivves besdies the CDrom.
A: 5.25 Floppy
B: 3.5 Floppy
C: Harddisk

Problem: Bios only lets me see A or C to boot with, its either A, C or C, A - I tried to tell the bios that the A: drive was the 3.5 no luck, I even tried distaching the 5.25 and it still wouldn't see it. So I am stuck in a little rut now!

I know nothing from this point on what to do, its way too old for me to finger out. I do know that I could program in the D: drive if I knew the cylenders, but I don't. I am not even sure where to find that info.

It does read the disk, but it can't boot from it. So I have to find a way to get around this....

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Post Posted: Sun May 11, 2003 11:30 am   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Floppy drive letters are keyed to the drive's position on the cable. The drive at the end of the cable is A:, while the one in the middle of the cable is B:. Will the BIOS let you set the A: drive as a 1.44 once you've done that? If not, you may just have to make a bootable 1.2 MB floppy.

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Post Posted: Sun May 11, 2003 8:35 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Floppy drive letters are keyed to the drive's position on the cable. The drive at the end of the cable is A:, while the one in the middle of the cable is B:. Will the BIOS let you set the A: drive as a 1.44 once you've done that? If not, you may just have to make a bootable 1.2 MB floppy.


Yes the bios will let me do that. The problem is I may need to find a new floppy cable - which isn't too bad I am sure I got one laying around. There is only one Floppy IDE like conection on the cable - the other two look like they go onto chips - not sure the proper term. But when I get home from work I will look for that.

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Post Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 12:33 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

If yer really interested in a 10/100 ISA Fast Ethernet card fer only $15 plus shipping...

Or you can get this one from eBay if yer so inclined... Wink

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Post Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 1:13 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Well I got everything solved, got the 3.5 to be seen as a A: drive (thanks all it took was a new floppy cable and a few tries to plugging it in and it worked)

Now when it boots all I get is an L 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 x infinity.

Tried new disk and it does the same thing Sad Suggestions?

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Post Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 9:31 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top  

Neff wrote:


Tried new disk and it does the same thing Sad Suggestions?


I've got an old 486 or Pentium 75 you can have for the cost of shipping. Probably not worth it. You could probably find one in your area for less.
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